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		<title>By: Lindsay Yoshitomi</title>
		<link>http://calpolymbatrip.com/2006/china/biological-business-in-china/#comment-643</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsay Yoshitomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 19:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand the interest Novartis has in finding the miracle drugs.  Growing up, I often saw my uncle who is Chinese unwrap strange looking plants and herbs wrapped in butcher paper.  They were remedies from an apothecary.  Amazingly, I also never saw anyone get over a cold or flu faster than he did after drinking awful smelling brews concocted from the interesting plants.  With so many over the counter cold remedies, Novartis may be on the right track.  As my uncle used to say, “One billion Chinese people can’t be wrong.”  The collaboration between Novartis and SIMM could produce break-through natural drugs, but at a great price to China’s environment.

Although Novartis gave China monetary compensation for its plants, that does not let them off the hook as far as moral responsibility for the environment.  It also does not let China off the hook because someone else is taxing their environment by exhausting their natural resource.  Just as the two are collaborating on a business deal, both are morally responsible for protecting and defending the source that contributes economically to both of them.  A lot is at stake when you look ahead.  Novartis needs to protect its future in more ways than one.  If China’s miracle drugs expand the number of natural cures for the drug company, the monetary gains could be huge, but can nature keep up?  To protect this lucrative avenue, Novartis must also protect the provider.  On the other hand, China must hold them accountable and ensure a moral obligation to their endangered environment.  However, with China’s westward expansion, this causes a dilemma and an uphill battle for Novartis.  You have China progressing west which could threaten plants that could hold miracle cures.  Then you have Novartis and its need for China’s plants.  Both movements could lead to extinction of a valuable resource.  Novartis has a moral obligation to help protect China’s environment, but China’s westward expansion may leave Novartis feeling like it’s eating soup with a fork.

Any business that maximizes its profits by taxing the environment has to be held accountable; it’s an ethical responsibility.  Whether it’s the oil or lumber industry, Novartis is in the same company.  When the balance of nature is upset by man, he must make amends.  A country such as China, going through an industrial revolution is also going to place increasing demands on the environment.  The Chinese government must be a watchdog as it invites businesses that bring them into the world market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand the interest Novartis has in finding the miracle drugs.  Growing up, I often saw my uncle who is Chinese unwrap strange looking plants and herbs wrapped in butcher paper.  They were remedies from an apothecary.  Amazingly, I also never saw anyone get over a cold or flu faster than he did after drinking awful smelling brews concocted from the interesting plants.  With so many over the counter cold remedies, Novartis may be on the right track.  As my uncle used to say, “One billion Chinese people can’t be wrong.”  The collaboration between Novartis and SIMM could produce break-through natural drugs, but at a great price to China’s environment.</p>
<p>Although Novartis gave China monetary compensation for its plants, that does not let them off the hook as far as moral responsibility for the environment.  It also does not let China off the hook because someone else is taxing their environment by exhausting their natural resource.  Just as the two are collaborating on a business deal, both are morally responsible for protecting and defending the source that contributes economically to both of them.  A lot is at stake when you look ahead.  Novartis needs to protect its future in more ways than one.  If China’s miracle drugs expand the number of natural cures for the drug company, the monetary gains could be huge, but can nature keep up?  To protect this lucrative avenue, Novartis must also protect the provider.  On the other hand, China must hold them accountable and ensure a moral obligation to their endangered environment.  However, with China’s westward expansion, this causes a dilemma and an uphill battle for Novartis.  You have China progressing west which could threaten plants that could hold miracle cures.  Then you have Novartis and its need for China’s plants.  Both movements could lead to extinction of a valuable resource.  Novartis has a moral obligation to help protect China’s environment, but China’s westward expansion may leave Novartis feeling like it’s eating soup with a fork.</p>
<p>Any business that maximizes its profits by taxing the environment has to be held accountable; it’s an ethical responsibility.  Whether it’s the oil or lumber industry, Novartis is in the same company.  When the balance of nature is upset by man, he must make amends.  A country such as China, going through an industrial revolution is also going to place increasing demands on the environment.  The Chinese government must be a watchdog as it invites businesses that bring them into the world market.</p>
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		<title>By: Lonnie</title>
		<link>http://calpolymbatrip.com/2006/china/biological-business-in-china/#comment-622</link>
		<dc:creator>Lonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 05:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments...

Yes, there is no doubt in my mind that the rural poor will lead the way in China's reformation. 

The majority of my students are rural born and raised and surprisingly many are anxious to return to their homes to improve the quality of living for their neighbors. I believe that education and abject poverty will soon prove to be a lethal mix for the current system. 

If you guys head South I hope you will let me spring for some Guangzhou cuisine and expat chatter...

Best,

Lon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, there is no doubt in my mind that the rural poor will lead the way in China&#8217;s reformation. </p>
<p>The majority of my students are rural born and raised and surprisingly many are anxious to return to their homes to improve the quality of living for their neighbors. I believe that education and abject poverty will soon prove to be a lethal mix for the current system. </p>
<p>If you guys head South I hope you will let me spring for some Guangzhou cuisine and expat chatter&#8230;</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Lon</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Arena</title>
		<link>http://calpolymbatrip.com/2006/china/biological-business-in-china/#comment-601</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Arena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 07:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before getting onto the topic of corporate responsibility, the environment and ethics, two things jump out at me.  

First, the connection between Dr. Morris’s presentation on China and the contents of this article are amazing.  It’s surprising that Western medical companies are just now realizing that China has a thousand year head start on curing medical problems with plants and substances found in rainforests and nature.

Second, the co-operation being exhibited by both the Chinese and foreign drug manufactures is great.  Not that I am an expert in international relations, but I can’t recall a situation where two groups on opposite ends of the political spectrum have been so willing to co-operate.  Hopefully this is a sign of things to come.

Recently it has become apparent that answers to many medical secretes could lie in the worlds tropical and remote forest regions.  Unfortunately, many of these lands are being destroyed due to deforestation and urbanization.  Herein lies the question.  How concerned are multinational conglomerates about deforestation and preservation of ecosystems?  How concerned is the Chinese government about over population and urbanization of farmlands?  (The answer to the latter question is very concerned)  Is the bottom line more important, or is providing a clean healthy place for our children to live the priority?  Not to get onto an ideological rant but it’s a basic question of ethics.  Where do our priorities ly?  It is clear that the Chinese are very aware and are taking steps to curb overpopulation.  But it is not so clear if big corporations are so concerned with the ecological conditions left in their wake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before getting onto the topic of corporate responsibility, the environment and ethics, two things jump out at me.  </p>
<p>First, the connection between Dr. Morris’s presentation on China and the contents of this article are amazing.  It’s surprising that Western medical companies are just now realizing that China has a thousand year head start on curing medical problems with plants and substances found in rainforests and nature.</p>
<p>Second, the co-operation being exhibited by both the Chinese and foreign drug manufactures is great.  Not that I am an expert in international relations, but I can’t recall a situation where two groups on opposite ends of the political spectrum have been so willing to co-operate.  Hopefully this is a sign of things to come.</p>
<p>Recently it has become apparent that answers to many medical secretes could lie in the worlds tropical and remote forest regions.  Unfortunately, many of these lands are being destroyed due to deforestation and urbanization.  Herein lies the question.  How concerned are multinational conglomerates about deforestation and preservation of ecosystems?  How concerned is the Chinese government about over population and urbanization of farmlands?  (The answer to the latter question is very concerned)  Is the bottom line more important, or is providing a clean healthy place for our children to live the priority?  Not to get onto an ideological rant but it’s a basic question of ethics.  Where do our priorities ly?  It is clear that the Chinese are very aware and are taking steps to curb overpopulation.  But it is not so clear if big corporations are so concerned with the ecological conditions left in their wake.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Allustiarti</title>
		<link>http://calpolymbatrip.com/2006/china/biological-business-in-china/#comment-592</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Allustiarti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 20:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a very important topic to think about.  I agree that this is a very complex issue.  It is easy to say that the Chinese should do more to protect the environment.  I think they should, but it is not just that simple.  The 'Food is Heaven' section of the China Rises video really opened my eyes to why I think helping preserve the environment is necessary for the future.

The water supply in China is becoming more and more polluted/contaminated by the various factories that are dumping waste into the water.  This is not only starting to pose a huge problem for workers that rely on these water supplies, but also on the population as a whole.  Those contaminated water supplies are being used in the agriculture industry.  Because of this, many of these foods are not qualified to enter the USA because of the many regulations and standards we have for our food.  These crops are being used to feed the people of China.  It is early to tell the health issues and repercussions of these actions, but I think it would be better to address the issue now before it is too late.  

As for deforestation, I think this is an issue that not only needs to be addressed in China, but on a global scale.  Many scientists attribute El Nino to the fact that the deforesting that went on hundreds of years ago had a major impact on the climate, in which resulted in droughts and floods hundreds of years later.  But as stated above, economies need lumber in order to survive.  So, there is a huge tradeoff between what benefits the now and what harms the future.  What do you guys think about the water supply and deforestation issues?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a very important topic to think about.  I agree that this is a very complex issue.  It is easy to say that the Chinese should do more to protect the environment.  I think they should, but it is not just that simple.  The &#8216;Food is Heaven&#8217; section of the China Rises video really opened my eyes to why I think helping preserve the environment is necessary for the future.</p>
<p>The water supply in China is becoming more and more polluted/contaminated by the various factories that are dumping waste into the water.  This is not only starting to pose a huge problem for workers that rely on these water supplies, but also on the population as a whole.  Those contaminated water supplies are being used in the agriculture industry.  Because of this, many of these foods are not qualified to enter the USA because of the many regulations and standards we have for our food.  These crops are being used to feed the people of China.  It is early to tell the health issues and repercussions of these actions, but I think it would be better to address the issue now before it is too late.  </p>
<p>As for deforestation, I think this is an issue that not only needs to be addressed in China, but on a global scale.  Many scientists attribute El Nino to the fact that the deforesting that went on hundreds of years ago had a major impact on the climate, in which resulted in droughts and floods hundreds of years later.  But as stated above, economies need lumber in order to survive.  So, there is a huge tradeoff between what benefits the now and what harms the future.  What do you guys think about the water supply and deforestation issues?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Carr</title>
		<link>http://calpolymbatrip.com/2006/china/biological-business-in-china/#comment-584</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 16:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lonnie -- thanks for the post!   As someone living there full-time and  in the trenches, do you think that the level of freedom of assembly/associataion in China is, or will develop to, a high enough level so that the masses can, in fact, rise up "enough" and be effective to get the government to move more quickly on some of the issues China is grappling with (e.g., better protecting the enviroment, not let the gap between rich and poor go completely nuts, etc.)?

Great blog, by the way (One Man Bandwidth).  I love reading your stuff.

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lonnie &#8212; thanks for the post!   As someone living there full-time and  in the trenches, do you think that the level of freedom of assembly/associataion in China is, or will develop to, a high enough level so that the masses can, in fact, rise up &#8220;enough&#8221; and be effective to get the government to move more quickly on some of the issues China is grappling with (e.g., better protecting the enviroment, not let the gap between rich and poor go completely nuts, etc.)?</p>
<p>Great blog, by the way (One Man Bandwidth).  I love reading your stuff.</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Lonnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the women, children and their families, who are now part of a 500% increase in cancer deaths in less than ten years, will rally the populace. The masses, through as many a 17,900 riots/demonstrations this years alone, will cause the government to wake up to the need for conservation, clean water, air and treatment for the ills industrialization has brought here....

Nice post...

Greetings from South China

Lonnie B Hodge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the women, children and their families, who are now part of a 500% increase in cancer deaths in less than ten years, will rally the populace. The masses, through as many a 17,900 riots/demonstrations this years alone, will cause the government to wake up to the need for conservation, clean water, air and treatment for the ills industrialization has brought here&#8230;.</p>
<p>Nice post&#8230;</p>
<p>Greetings from South China</p>
<p>Lonnie B Hodge</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve makes several good points to the importance of preserving the environment in China.  However, my question is how are we actually going to do this?  It is very difficult to get an entire country (especially the size of China) to agree that the long term benefits of preserving the forest and the environment outweigh the short term benefits of continually expanding westward.  

The same thing has been happening in South America for a long time.  The local people have no choice but to cut down the rainforest because it is their source of revenue.  It is their means of survival.  I have a feeling that China may be feeling similarly but more in the business context.  China wants its' economy, markets, and businesses to survive and it seems that destroying the environment is the price China is willing to pay. How do we stop China from destroying such valuable resources when it feels like it is necessary to cut them down?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve makes several good points to the importance of preserving the environment in China.  However, my question is how are we actually going to do this?  It is very difficult to get an entire country (especially the size of China) to agree that the long term benefits of preserving the forest and the environment outweigh the short term benefits of continually expanding westward.  </p>
<p>The same thing has been happening in South America for a long time.  The local people have no choice but to cut down the rainforest because it is their source of revenue.  It is their means of survival.  I have a feeling that China may be feeling similarly but more in the business context.  China wants its&#8217; economy, markets, and businesses to survive and it seems that destroying the environment is the price China is willing to pay. How do we stop China from destroying such valuable resources when it feels like it is necessary to cut them down?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Carr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 21:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very interesting article.  It's fascinating to learn about some of the differences between traditional Chinese medicine and Western approaches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very interesting article.  It&#8217;s fascinating to learn about some of the differences between traditional Chinese medicine and Western approaches.</p>
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