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	<title>Comments on: Citigroup Encounters Hurdles to Retail-Banking Plans</title>
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		<title>By: China Law Blog</title>
		<link>http://calpolymbatrip.com/2006/china/citigroup-encounters-hurdles-to-retail-banking-plans/#comment-607</link>
		<dc:creator>China Law Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 00:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though I am not typically a big Guanxi fan, in high regulation, big ticket areas like banking, I have to make an exception.

I am fascinated by these big foreign banks going into China, knowing they are going to lose a ton of money for years to come.  I have talked with a banker friend of mine at one of the big banks that is already in China and he just keeps telling me, "credit cards."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I am not typically a big Guanxi fan, in high regulation, big ticket areas like banking, I have to make an exception.</p>
<p>I am fascinated by these big foreign banks going into China, knowing they are going to lose a ton of money for years to come.  I have talked with a banker friend of mine at one of the big banks that is already in China and he just keeps telling me, &#8220;credit cards.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian McCarthy</title>
		<link>http://calpolymbatrip.com/2006/china/citigroup-encounters-hurdles-to-retail-banking-plans/#comment-588</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian McCarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 00:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I expect there are similar articles for many different industries.  The theme is probably the same: the need for the Chinese government to regulate foreign expansion in their country, and the patience required by the foreign corporations to conduct business in China.

The approach the Chinese government is taking toward foreign banks could be labels as conservative, but the regulations make sense.  Just looking at the numbers of potential banking customers, both individual and corporate, and the numbers of foreign banks (more than 70) trying to get into China, there is a need for controls.

There are the regulations on foreign ownership of domestic banks (maximum of 25% ownership).  There are regulations on access to various segments of customers via the 5-year timetable (customers with foreign currency, then Chinese companies with yuan, finally Chinese consumers with yuan).  There is the requirement for foreign banks to incorporate locally in China.  All these requirements may take time, but as the Chinese government stated, these processes are required to “strengthen and improve the supervision and management of foreign banks” and to “protect Chinese depositors until a deposit-insurance program can be established.”  Again, given the large scale of operations, rapid or loosely controlled expansion of foreign banks would be detrimental.

From Citigroup’s perspective, lets start with the name of the company in China, Hua Qi.  The article translates the name to American Flag.  Many Chinese companies and people probably have a positive, monetary association with America.  The association is probably one of the perceived wealth and prosperity in America.  The name appears to be a good selection by the Marketing group.

Beyond the new brand, Citigroup’s strategy is appropriate.  To undertake such an enormous project requires patience.  You have to keep taking small steps that make a difference before large gains can be realized.  By increasing visibility through the ATM machines, the brand will be more recognized, especially in a country that is so open to electronic banking.  The ATM strategy is a low cost and available way to increase presence and brand recognition.  In addition, working though other available channels such as offering complex deposit products to wealthy Chinese customers is another way to increase the word of mouth of Citigroup’s offerings.

Many companies in the banking and other industries are going to want to do business in China.  The companies that have the ability to be patient and play by the rules will benefit in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expect there are similar articles for many different industries.  The theme is probably the same: the need for the Chinese government to regulate foreign expansion in their country, and the patience required by the foreign corporations to conduct business in China.</p>
<p>The approach the Chinese government is taking toward foreign banks could be labels as conservative, but the regulations make sense.  Just looking at the numbers of potential banking customers, both individual and corporate, and the numbers of foreign banks (more than 70) trying to get into China, there is a need for controls.</p>
<p>There are the regulations on foreign ownership of domestic banks (maximum of 25% ownership).  There are regulations on access to various segments of customers via the 5-year timetable (customers with foreign currency, then Chinese companies with yuan, finally Chinese consumers with yuan).  There is the requirement for foreign banks to incorporate locally in China.  All these requirements may take time, but as the Chinese government stated, these processes are required to “strengthen and improve the supervision and management of foreign banks” and to “protect Chinese depositors until a deposit-insurance program can be established.”  Again, given the large scale of operations, rapid or loosely controlled expansion of foreign banks would be detrimental.</p>
<p>From Citigroup’s perspective, lets start with the name of the company in China, Hua Qi.  The article translates the name to American Flag.  Many Chinese companies and people probably have a positive, monetary association with America.  The association is probably one of the perceived wealth and prosperity in America.  The name appears to be a good selection by the Marketing group.</p>
<p>Beyond the new brand, Citigroup’s strategy is appropriate.  To undertake such an enormous project requires patience.  You have to keep taking small steps that make a difference before large gains can be realized.  By increasing visibility through the ATM machines, the brand will be more recognized, especially in a country that is so open to electronic banking.  The ATM strategy is a low cost and available way to increase presence and brand recognition.  In addition, working though other available channels such as offering complex deposit products to wealthy Chinese customers is another way to increase the word of mouth of Citigroup’s offerings.</p>
<p>Many companies in the banking and other industries are going to want to do business in China.  The companies that have the ability to be patient and play by the rules will benefit in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Carr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 21:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post and article.

One of the interesting things to me about the intersection of "guanxi" and business in China is that most people believe you MUST have good local guanxi to survive there.  As a general rule that is probably true.

Yet, some wisely point out that there is sometimes an advantage to NOT being part of a local or industry guanxi network -- e.g., you may be considered untainted and this is no small accomplishment in China (to prevent this Imperial China forbade officials from serving in their own home province and the Communist Party has similar rules) (source: see Joseph Wang comment here on the &lt;a href="http://www.chinalawblog.com/chinalawblog/2006/11/china_forum_jan.html"&gt;China Law Blog&lt;/a&gt;).

In recent years Western banks have had some success by forging alliances with the government in Beijing against the local banking networks (same cite/source). However, this articles suggests that this alliance may not be enough to win the day and/or is starting to swing in the other direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post and article.</p>
<p>One of the interesting things to me about the intersection of &#8220;guanxi&#8221; and business in China is that most people believe you MUST have good local guanxi to survive there.  As a general rule that is probably true.</p>
<p>Yet, some wisely point out that there is sometimes an advantage to NOT being part of a local or industry guanxi network &#8212; e.g., you may be considered untainted and this is no small accomplishment in China (to prevent this Imperial China forbade officials from serving in their own home province and the Communist Party has similar rules) (source: see Joseph Wang comment here on the <a href="http://www.chinalawblog.com/chinalawblog/2006/11/china_forum_jan.html">China Law Blog</a>).</p>
<p>In recent years Western banks have had some success by forging alliances with the government in Beijing against the local banking networks (same cite/source). However, this articles suggests that this alliance may not be enough to win the day and/or is starting to swing in the other direction.</p>
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