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		<title>By: Witold Sadowski</title>
		<link>http://calpolymbatrip.com/2008/china/golf-and-i-phones-in-china/#comment-3766</link>
		<dc:creator>Witold Sadowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“While you’re in the U.S., would you mind picking up an iPhone for me?” - Looks like people are paying up to $600 (a 50% retail markup) in china for a real one (credit to Rob for showing me &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/18/business/worldbusiness/18iphone.html?em&#38;ex=1203483600&#38;en=96a67b5763767a8b&#38;ei=5087%0A" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;this article&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;). I like personally like the Chinese iClone...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“While you’re in the U.S., would you mind picking up an iPhone for me?” - Looks like people are paying up to $600 (a 50% retail markup) in china for a real one (credit to Rob for showing me <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/18/business/worldbusiness/18iphone.html?em&amp;ex=1203483600&amp;en=96a67b5763767a8b&amp;ei=5087%0A" rel="nofollow"><strong>this article</strong></a>). I like personally like the Chinese iClone&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://calpolymbatrip.com/2008/china/golf-and-i-phones-in-china/#comment-3676</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An &lt;acronym title="or so I think"&gt;interesting&lt;/acronym&gt; blurb about &lt;acronym title="A company in Cupertino"&gt;Apple's&lt;/acronym&gt; problems in &lt;acronym title="A country in Asia"&gt;China&lt;/acronym&gt;.

&lt;a href="http://valleywag.com/357200/1-in-10-iphones-are-on-china-mobile-++-and-thats-a-headache-for-jobs" rel="nofollow"&gt;1 in 10 iPhones are on China Mobile&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An <acronym title="or so I think">interesting</acronym> blurb about <acronym title="A company in Cupertino">Apple&#8217;s</acronym> problems in <acronym title="A country in Asia">China</acronym>.</p>
<p><a href="http://valleywag.com/357200/1-in-10-iphones-are-on-china-mobile-++-and-thats-a-headache-for-jobs" rel="nofollow">1 in 10 iPhones are on China Mobile</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marc van der Chijs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc van der Chijs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 05:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Jobs has never been to China. In a recent meeting with him, I actually urged him to come over if he is serious about the Chinese market. Bill Gates has been here several times, and he managed to build up a good reputation for Microsoft within the government and among the 'common people'. Apple does not have that, and will not have that until Steve will visit  China personally. His comment was something along the line of "I am in charge of products, so I don't have much time". A pity, because I am a big Apple fan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Jobs has never been to China. In a recent meeting with him, I actually urged him to come over if he is serious about the Chinese market. Bill Gates has been here several times, and he managed to build up a good reputation for Microsoft within the government and among the &#8216;common people&#8217;. Apple does not have that, and will not have that until Steve will visit  China personally. His comment was something along the line of &#8220;I am in charge of products, so I don&#8217;t have much time&#8221;. A pity, because I am a big Apple fan.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Bilsten</title>
		<link>http://calpolymbatrip.com/2008/china/golf-and-i-phones-in-china/#comment-3453</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse Bilsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd love to get a golf club going.  We've talked about trying to set up a constant course time to play at Laguna (since we're poor and not very good).  It seems like we're all motivated to do it, the only problem is the work load is so much that most of our weekends (or all of mine in my case) are spent doing homework.

Every once in a while we'll get a chance to head out, but not sure if we have enough interest to form an actual club...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to get a golf club going.  We&#8217;ve talked about trying to set up a constant course time to play at Laguna (since we&#8217;re poor and not very good).  It seems like we&#8217;re all motivated to do it, the only problem is the work load is so much that most of our weekends (or all of mine in my case) are spent doing homework.</p>
<p>Every once in a while we&#8217;ll get a chance to head out, but not sure if we have enough interest to form an actual club&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pierre Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really doubt that Steve Jobs has never been to China. There are several sources that suggest he's been talking with China Mobile, although he claims that no "hot and heavy" negotiations have taken place.
http://idannyb.wordpress.com/2008/01/15/steve-jobs-negotiations-with-china-mobile-what-negotiations/

And here is yet another way to unlock your iPhone:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10834

By the way, thanks for sharing that video Brandi. It's amusing and quite impressive what the Chinese can do. They can make very similar knock-offs of very high tech products...and even add improvements. I  like that you can add micro SD cards to the Chinese version, and replace your battery too! The stylus though definitely sucks, not having to use one is what makes an iPhone. I also noticed two slots for GSM cards, anyone know what the second one is for? Different networks would be my guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really doubt that Steve Jobs has never been to China. There are several sources that suggest he&#8217;s been talking with China Mobile, although he claims that no &#8220;hot and heavy&#8221; negotiations have taken place.<br />
<a href="http://idannyb.wordpress.com/2008/01/15/steve-jobs-negotiations-with-china-mobile-what-negotiations/" rel="nofollow">http://idannyb.wordpress.com/2008/01/15/steve-jobs-negotiations-with-china-mobile-what-negotiations/</a></p>
<p>And here is yet another way to unlock your iPhone:<br />
<a href="http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10834" rel="nofollow">http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10834</a></p>
<p>By the way, thanks for sharing that video Brandi. It&#8217;s amusing and quite impressive what the Chinese can do. They can make very similar knock-offs of very high tech products&#8230;and even add improvements. I  like that you can add micro SD cards to the Chinese version, and replace your battery too! The stylus though definitely sucks, not having to use one is what makes an iPhone. I also noticed two slots for GSM cards, anyone know what the second one is for? Different networks would be my guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the great things about golf is that it allows you to meet so many interesting people that you would ordinarily never have a chance to speak with.  You can meet people from all over the world with varying skill levels, personalities, backgrounds, and occupations.  I don't think there is another sport that draws individuals from so many different walks of life.  It is truly a global game and a language that is shared by people from all over the world.  There is no doubt that it plays an important role in the way many business deals are brought to life.  Since Cal Poly doesn't offer a golf class, maybe the GSBA should try to get a club organized.  We could invite people from industry, professors and business students to play once a month at a local course.  Just an idea.  If anyone would like to play sometime let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the great things about golf is that it allows you to meet so many interesting people that you would ordinarily never have a chance to speak with.  You can meet people from all over the world with varying skill levels, personalities, backgrounds, and occupations.  I don&#8217;t think there is another sport that draws individuals from so many different walks of life.  It is truly a global game and a language that is shared by people from all over the world.  There is no doubt that it plays an important role in the way many business deals are brought to life.  Since Cal Poly doesn&#8217;t offer a golf class, maybe the GSBA should try to get a club organized.  We could invite people from industry, professors and business students to play once a month at a local course.  Just an idea.  If anyone would like to play sometime let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandi Eng-Rohrbach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandi Eng-Rohrbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They already have the iPhone in China.  &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_8wuVEYMZ8" rel="nofollow"&gt;See it Here.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They already have the iPhone in China.  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_8wuVEYMZ8" rel="nofollow">See it Here.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brandi Eng-Rohrbach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandi Eng-Rohrbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 01:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just as an add on.  I'd like to say that despite AT&#38;T offering a better selection of phones and an ability to use their phones overseas, in this particular area their reception is much poorer and since switching I have experienced a huge increase in dropped calls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as an add on.  I&#8217;d like to say that despite AT&amp;T offering a better selection of phones and an ability to use their phones overseas, in this particular area their reception is much poorer and since switching I have experienced a huge increase in dropped calls.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandi Eng-Rohrbach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandi Eng-Rohrbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 01:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it shocking that Steve Jobs has never been to China considering thats where the majority of his products are produced.   I guess he really doesn't understand the want for his products there.  If you go into the markets in China there is tons of fake apple products being sold.   I think this is testament to the demand there.  Apple is foolish because if you don't offer a legal alternative then you are just missing out on a market. 

I think Apple is always as a company is about negotiating things on their own terms.  If you can't do it their way then you can't work with them.  They have such a brand loyalty that they can demand the terms of the carriers here who carry their product.  I guess Apple fundamentally doesn't understand that to do business in China you have to play by their terms.  There is only one company that controls the keys to the kingdom of Chinese mobile users.  Chinese mobile users outnumber United States users as referenced in the factoids section of this site.  I think Apple's inability to adjust their company's culture to another culture is causing them to miss out on a huge business opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it shocking that Steve Jobs has never been to China considering thats where the majority of his products are produced.   I guess he really doesn&#8217;t understand the want for his products there.  If you go into the markets in China there is tons of fake apple products being sold.   I think this is testament to the demand there.  Apple is foolish because if you don&#8217;t offer a legal alternative then you are just missing out on a market. </p>
<p>I think Apple is always as a company is about negotiating things on their own terms.  If you can&#8217;t do it their way then you can&#8217;t work with them.  They have such a brand loyalty that they can demand the terms of the carriers here who carry their product.  I guess Apple fundamentally doesn&#8217;t understand that to do business in China you have to play by their terms.  There is only one company that controls the keys to the kingdom of Chinese mobile users.  Chinese mobile users outnumber United States users as referenced in the factoids section of this site.  I think Apple&#8217;s inability to adjust their company&#8217;s culture to another culture is causing them to miss out on a huge business opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Bilsten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse Bilsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 23:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should also mention you can buy them on eBay as well:
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&#38;_trksid=m37&#38;satitle=unlocked+iphone&#38;category0=</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should also mention you can buy them on eBay as well:<br />
<a href="http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&amp;_trksid=m37&amp;satitle=unlocked+iphone&amp;category0=" rel="nofollow">http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&amp;_trksid=m37&amp;satitle=unlocked+iphone&amp;category0=</a></p>
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