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	<title>Comments on: So You Want To Learn To Say More Than Just Ni Hao?</title>
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		<title>By: DWOLF</title>
		<link>http://calpolymbatrip.com/2008/china/so-you-want-to-learn-to-say-more-than-just-ni-hao/#comment-7344</link>
		<dc:creator>DWOLF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other thought from Beijing.

I am in my mid-40s and find myself using my Chinese now more than I did 20 years ago when I finished my master's degree. What will it be like in 20 more years? And what will be the implications for all of us when the ranks of the Fortune 500 begin to fill with the names of Chinese companies?

Logan is right. A little Chinese is better than nothing. And the more you learn, the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other thought from Beijing.</p>
<p>I am in my mid-40s and find myself using my Chinese now more than I did 20 years ago when I finished my master&#8217;s degree. What will it be like in 20 more years? And what will be the implications for all of us when the ranks of the Fortune 500 begin to fill with the names of Chinese companies?</p>
<p>Logan is right. A little Chinese is better than nothing. And the more you learn, the better.</p>
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		<title>By: Logan Travis</title>
		<link>http://calpolymbatrip.com/2008/china/so-you-want-to-learn-to-say-more-than-just-ni-hao/#comment-7305</link>
		<dc:creator>Logan Travis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll be honest, I know almost nothing about the Chinese language. I'm sure learning at least some basic phrases would help immensely on our trip. However, what I do "know" about Chinese is it has a vast array of dialects. A quick Google search turned up this site: &lt;a href="http://www.glossika.com/en/dict/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Chinese Dialects&lt;/a&gt;. Cool huh? Click on the makers for major cities and in opens a dialogue box listing the most used dialect. Mandrin ranks as top in Beijing but not in Shanghai (Wu language) nor Guagzhou (Yue language + Unclassified?) which we also plant to visit.

Knowing some Mandrin is probably better than nothing, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be honest, I know almost nothing about the Chinese language. I&#8217;m sure learning at least some basic phrases would help immensely on our trip. However, what I do &#8220;know&#8221; about Chinese is it has a vast array of dialects. A quick Google search turned up this site: <a href="http://www.glossika.com/en/dict/" rel="nofollow">Chinese Dialects</a>. Cool huh? Click on the makers for major cities and in opens a dialogue box listing the most used dialect. Mandrin ranks as top in Beijing but not in Shanghai (Wu language) nor Guagzhou (Yue language + Unclassified?) which we also plant to visit.</p>
<p>Knowing some Mandrin is probably better than nothing, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Jenna Healy</title>
		<link>http://calpolymbatrip.com/2008/china/so-you-want-to-learn-to-say-more-than-just-ni-hao/#comment-7262</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenna Healy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why knowing only English can be a disadvantage…

Yes, we should ALL want to learn to say more than just Ni Hao.

The globe is learning English… why? Because we’ve told them to.  Part of the shift of power or what Zakaria calls the “rise of the rest” is the global use of the English language, nearing one quarter of the planet.  Zakaria says:

“What sounds young and modern today is English.  No language has ever spread so broadly and deeply across the world…

…Some 80% of the electronically stored information in the world is in English”

We know English is spreading like wildfire, but people do not forget their native tongue to take on English.  They use it as an additional language.  The gap here seems obvious to me:  Americans know English, that’s it.

The rest of the world has adopted business practices, from the U.S. and Europe; we pushed this to happen.  What Westerners failed to predict is how the lack of our own foreign language and culture knowledge would leave us behind, as much of the world is becoming bi and multi-lingual. 

Many Californians know Spanish, probably because of the proximity to Mexico and the immigrant influence on California’s agricultural economy.  In this golden state, most of us land on a spectrum of understanding and/or speaking Spanish.

Other languages do not seem to be commonly spoken, by Americans born in the US that is.  It’s refreshing to hear the occasional foreign language in our not-so-culturally-diverse town. 

We seem to be a tattle tale of a country and the one to point fingers.  Zakaria states, “we are the only country in the world to issue annual report cards on every other country’s behavior.”

What has happened while we were pointing fingers and giving report cards elsewhere?  Has our own ego created our potential demise?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why knowing only English can be a disadvantage…</p>
<p>Yes, we should ALL want to learn to say more than just Ni Hao.</p>
<p>The globe is learning English… why? Because we’ve told them to.  Part of the shift of power or what Zakaria calls the “rise of the rest” is the global use of the English language, nearing one quarter of the planet.  Zakaria says:</p>
<p>“What sounds young and modern today is English.  No language has ever spread so broadly and deeply across the world…</p>
<p>…Some 80% of the electronically stored information in the world is in English”</p>
<p>We know English is spreading like wildfire, but people do not forget their native tongue to take on English.  They use it as an additional language.  The gap here seems obvious to me:  Americans know English, that’s it.</p>
<p>The rest of the world has adopted business practices, from the U.S. and Europe; we pushed this to happen.  What Westerners failed to predict is how the lack of our own foreign language and culture knowledge would leave us behind, as much of the world is becoming bi and multi-lingual. </p>
<p>Many Californians know Spanish, probably because of the proximity to Mexico and the immigrant influence on California’s agricultural economy.  In this golden state, most of us land on a spectrum of understanding and/or speaking Spanish.</p>
<p>Other languages do not seem to be commonly spoken, by Americans born in the US that is.  It’s refreshing to hear the occasional foreign language in our not-so-culturally-diverse town. </p>
<p>We seem to be a tattle tale of a country and the one to point fingers.  Zakaria states, “we are the only country in the world to issue annual report cards on every other country’s behavior.”</p>
<p>What has happened while we were pointing fingers and giving report cards elsewhere?  Has our own ego created our potential demise?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric White</title>
		<link>http://calpolymbatrip.com/2008/china/so-you-want-to-learn-to-say-more-than-just-ni-hao/#comment-7229</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rocketchinese.com also has about a dozen free lessons</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rocketchinese.com also has about a dozen free lessons</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Eves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Eves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I listened to a few of the episodes on iTunes.  The episodes that say “newbie” next to the title are about ten minutes long that teach a basic phrase for “newbies” in Mandarin. The first one had to do with plastic bags in the grocery store.  They talk about how China supermarkets and stores charge for plastic bags now and how it has been a very effective way to reduce waste.  Most people have adapted by bringing in reusable bags when they shop and seem to be very supportive of the change.

The sample dialogue was clear and they replay it 3 times for clarity.  Then, the hosts of the podcast break down the phrase and repeat each sentence three times. They do an excellent job keeping the lesson simple to where anyone could repeat the phrase and understand what was being said.  The next Newbie episode involved the phrase “hurry hurry” so they wouldn’t miss the train.  I imagine this may be very useful in June!

I think this is a good resource if you just want to do one a day or a simple program.  It is entertaining and you take away some Mandarin with you.  For the more ambitious, I wouldn’t recommend it if you want to do an in depth study.  The hosts’ commentary is often irrelevant and can seem to drag on for how much material there is in the ten minutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listened to a few of the episodes on iTunes.  The episodes that say “newbie” next to the title are about ten minutes long that teach a basic phrase for “newbies” in Mandarin. The first one had to do with plastic bags in the grocery store.  They talk about how China supermarkets and stores charge for plastic bags now and how it has been a very effective way to reduce waste.  Most people have adapted by bringing in reusable bags when they shop and seem to be very supportive of the change.</p>
<p>The sample dialogue was clear and they replay it 3 times for clarity.  Then, the hosts of the podcast break down the phrase and repeat each sentence three times. They do an excellent job keeping the lesson simple to where anyone could repeat the phrase and understand what was being said.  The next Newbie episode involved the phrase “hurry hurry” so they wouldn’t miss the train.  I imagine this may be very useful in June!</p>
<p>I think this is a good resource if you just want to do one a day or a simple program.  It is entertaining and you take away some Mandarin with you.  For the more ambitious, I wouldn’t recommend it if you want to do an in depth study.  The hosts’ commentary is often irrelevant and can seem to drag on for how much material there is in the ten minutes.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Neal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Neal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the information on where to get some free Chinese lessons!  I know from personal experience that the ability to effectively communicate while overseas can add a wonderful dimension to any trip.  In high school I was fortunate enough to be able to take a European study tour similar to the China/India study tour we are about to embark on in 6 months. 

I know for a fact that the people who were able to speak in the local language were able to gain a lot more form the trip than the other students, and learn more from the culture.  I was lucky enough to have a friend who spoke German and French as well as my mother who speaks a little Dutch.  These people were able to help me out a ton.  I still think they were able to learn a little more from the trip and each individual culture though.  They definitely were able to accomplish regular tasks more easily, as well as were able to read the historical artifacts and descriptions in the unaltered original language.  

I really encourage everyone to take a couple lessons or just listen to the free podcasts online.  After all it’s always good to be able to ask your own way to the bathroom.  With the podcasts and internet it is actually pretty easy to find relatively cheap and useful aids for learning Mandarin.  I did a little searching on I-tunes and found a ton of useful applications for download.  There is also a relatively cheap ($3.99) “Not lost in translation” 20 minute guide to Mandarin available on I-tunes (it has everything from greetings, help and directions, to pickup lines).  However, if anyone wants to get together and buy a copy of Rosetta-Stone let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the information on where to get some free Chinese lessons!  I know from personal experience that the ability to effectively communicate while overseas can add a wonderful dimension to any trip.  In high school I was fortunate enough to be able to take a European study tour similar to the China/India study tour we are about to embark on in 6 months. </p>
<p>I know for a fact that the people who were able to speak in the local language were able to gain a lot more form the trip than the other students, and learn more from the culture.  I was lucky enough to have a friend who spoke German and French as well as my mother who speaks a little Dutch.  These people were able to help me out a ton.  I still think they were able to learn a little more from the trip and each individual culture though.  They definitely were able to accomplish regular tasks more easily, as well as were able to read the historical artifacts and descriptions in the unaltered original language.  </p>
<p>I really encourage everyone to take a couple lessons or just listen to the free podcasts online.  After all it’s always good to be able to ask your own way to the bathroom.  With the podcasts and internet it is actually pretty easy to find relatively cheap and useful aids for learning Mandarin.  I did a little searching on I-tunes and found a ton of useful applications for download.  There is also a relatively cheap ($3.99) “Not lost in translation” 20 minute guide to Mandarin available on I-tunes (it has everything from greetings, help and directions, to pickup lines).  However, if anyone wants to get together and buy a copy of Rosetta-Stone let me know.</p>
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