Comments on: What’s Good For Mother Russia’s Goose … May Not Be So Good For The USA Or China Gander http://calpolymbatrip.com/2008/china/whats-good-for-russia-stinks-for-china-andthe-rest-of-us/ The MBA Graduate Program at Cal Poly Tue, 22 May 2012 00:23:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Dan http://calpolymbatrip.com/2008/china/whats-good-for-russia-stinks-for-china-andthe-rest-of-us/#comment-5674 Dan Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:26:45 +0000 http://calpolymbatrip.com/2008/china/whats-good-for-russia-stinks-for-china-andthe-rest-of-us/#comment-5674 The issue between Russia and China is essentially the exact opposite. The issue is not so much Russians in areas controlled by China, but the very opposite: Chinese in areas (like the Russian Far East) controlled by Russia. I think the real issue is how does this all relate to Tibet? Also, (and I raised this issue at the time as well), but can someone please explain to me how it is that we can reconcile Kosovo with the various other regions in the world seeking self-determination? What made/makes Kosovo so different? The issue between Russia and China is essentially the exact opposite. The issue is not so much Russians in areas controlled by China, but the very opposite: Chinese in areas (like the Russian Far East) controlled by Russia.

I think the real issue is how does this all relate to Tibet? Also, (and I raised this issue at the time as well), but can someone please explain to me how it is that we can reconcile Kosovo with the various other regions in the world seeking self-determination? What made/makes Kosovo so different?

]]> By: Chris Carr http://calpolymbatrip.com/2008/china/whats-good-for-russia-stinks-for-china-andthe-rest-of-us/#comment-5673 Chris Carr Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:15:53 +0000 http://calpolymbatrip.com/2008/china/whats-good-for-russia-stinks-for-china-andthe-rest-of-us/#comment-5673 Good info, Lonnie. Thanks for the check in. Good info, Lonnie. Thanks for the check in.

]]> By: Onemanbandwidth http://calpolymbatrip.com/2008/china/whats-good-for-russia-stinks-for-china-andthe-rest-of-us/#comment-5672 Onemanbandwidth Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:51:08 +0000 http://calpolymbatrip.com/2008/china/whats-good-for-russia-stinks-for-china-andthe-rest-of-us/#comment-5672 On the silence first: A Japanese journalist asked why the moderator at the news conference after Irakli Tsirekidze of Georgia won the 90-kilogram men's judo final the day before had refused to allow a question on the Georgia-Russia conflict. Wang answered with what has become a mantra of these Games that Rule 51.3 of the Olympic charter forbids the promotion of political agendas within Olympic venues." It actually extends outside the stadium : to remark on any political situation in any country right now would further inflame the already bored and story-starved reporters at the Games. I think the three T's would get even more notice again. Hong Kong TV did speak out last night and back-handed McCain (and don;'t shoot the messenger here as I hate war) by saying that any US declaration against Russia was hypocritical--especially coming from a man who legislatively sponsored one of two recent invasions by America. I spent lunch today with a party secretary who once served in the Foreign Service in Africa for China. We talked openly about current affairs and he spoke with great first-hand authority about some issues. The baltic region only send in about 10% of China's oil where Africa and the Middle East supply most of China's huge import needs. Russia and China, though long allies, are still trying to figure out how to trust each other... We have a greater interest in Georgia because of oil-- it is not unlike our interest in Afghanistan or Iraq. We really don't give a crap about autonomy for Georgia beyond that. We let hundreds of thousands die in Rwanda because you can't drive a car on tea and bananas--not yet anyway. China has the power to effect change but is consumed right now with the daunting task of keeping 30,000 reporters focused on the Olympics and not on politics. Give it a few weeks and China, hoping to increase imports from Russia and its neighbors, will sound- off. But, expect the US to get raked over the coals in the process. On the silence first: A Japanese journalist asked why the moderator at the news conference after Irakli Tsirekidze of Georgia won the 90-kilogram men’s judo final the day before had refused to allow a question on the Georgia-Russia conflict. Wang answered with what has become a mantra of these Games that Rule 51.3 of the Olympic charter forbids the promotion of political agendas within Olympic venues.”
It actually extends outside the stadium : to remark on any political situation in any country right now would further inflame the already bored and story-starved reporters at the Games. I think the three T’s would get even more notice again.
Hong Kong TV did speak out last night and back-handed McCain (and don;’t shoot the messenger here as I hate war) by saying that any US declaration against Russia was hypocritical–especially coming from a man who legislatively sponsored one of two recent invasions by America.

I spent lunch today with a party secretary who once served in the Foreign Service in Africa for China. We talked openly about current affairs and he spoke with great first-hand authority about some issues. The baltic region only send in about 10% of China’s oil where Africa and the Middle East supply most of China’s huge import needs. Russia and China, though long allies, are still trying to figure out how to trust each other…
We have a greater interest in Georgia because of oil– it is not unlike our interest in Afghanistan or Iraq. We really don’t give a crap about autonomy for Georgia beyond that. We let hundreds of thousands die in Rwanda because you can’t drive a car on tea and bananas–not yet anyway.
China has the power to effect change but is consumed right now with the daunting task of keeping 30,000 reporters focused on the Olympics and not on politics. Give it a few weeks and China, hoping to increase imports from Russia and its neighbors, will sound- off. But, expect the US to get raked over the coals in the process.

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