‘Yeah, Carr, This Trip Is Great And Everything, And I’m Looking Forward To It And I Am Glad Cal Poly Does This, But It Won’t Really Impact My Future That Much As I’m Not Going To Work International’
May 1st, 2008
Oh really?
And let me guess … all the products you buy are made in America and there is no value in seeing where the products we buy are made, right? Or the investment funds your stock broker dumps your money into will have no cross-border asset investments tied to China or India, right?
Hmmmm.
In any event, I think most folks get it, but I do overhear this comment a few times each year. In fact, a few weeks ago I had someone in my office making the very argument that is the heading of this post and that if they had to go on the trip and “bear” it in order to graduate on an accelerated basis, they would buck up and make it through.
Double-hmmmm.
I understand where people are coming from and they mean well when they make such statements, and I am pleased they remain outward looking enough to still enroll in the course and undertake this field trip. Perhaps what they are really saying is, “I have no desire to be an expat.”
Fair enough, as the expat life is not for everybody. But I still push back against said statements, and will continue to do so, because I think said statements miss an important point and shows a disconnect with what is happening in the world and about what the term “international” means in the year 2011.
To reiterate what I noted in our early information sessions — the goal of the trip is to not turn you into an expat, although that may be the natural result of this experience for some.
Rather, some of the main goals are:
1. To better understand how the world’s business, economic, political and social puzzle fit together. You can’t do that from a book or by having coffee at Starbucks in SLO town, Santa Barbara, LA or the SF Bay area.
2. To better understand how, even if you/your firm elects to focus inward and continue to emphasize only California or US markets, there is a high probability your competition will use and leverage China and/or India against you. Thus, if you remain on the sideline, in time, your competition will kick your butt, there, or here. For every person who has made the above statement, I can point to one of their competitors who are somehow leveraging China or India to their detriment.
3. This is a big one. You can/will return to the US and … surprise! … you will be better at your business here at home because you traveled to places like India and China to study business, to see what is happening there first hand which will in turn help you separate fact from urban legend, and you gain a deeper understanding of why. If you really pay attention and ask lots of questions and go into both countries with total humility (meaning let them do the talking and you just listen), you might even pick up some best business practices from the Chinese or Indians.
4. How do you know the day won’t come where your boss walks in your office and says, “I need you to take the next red-eye to Guangzhou or New Delhi” and he/she picked you because he/she heard you have been to one of these places before on business? Will you jump at the chance and opportunity of a lifetime and in turn become the firm resident expert on China or India, or, will you run for the hills and miss an opportunity that may never come your way again?
5. Finally, one day you might decide you hate your job and working for “the man” and decide to start your own business. You will need capital to do that. You will find that if your idea is decent, potential investors will look at your business plan and ask, “why is there nothing global or relating to global expansion or strategy or how to respond to the global competition here?”
I could go on, but you get the picture and in summary, read this post, “Top Ten Reasons Why China Matters To You” from pundit Thomas Barnett. He says it better than I ever could (or have tried).
His list highlights why in the year 2011, an educated person cannot convincingly argue, “I am not international” or “I am not going to work international.” If you make such a statement, be aware that there are a number of people in the world that will look at you askance and even question your intelligence and the value of your Cal Poly degree and/or what you learned here (as an undergrad or grad student).
At least I would ….
To close, here is a great quote from Coca-Cola’s current CEO, E. Neville Isdell (Biz Ed, May/June 2008, pages 19-20):
Question by interviewer: If you were to come into a business classroom for a day, what would you want to say to business students?
Answer: I would want to teach students to understand different backgrounds, cultures, religions, and perspectives, even if those perspectives are antithetical to their own. If student’s don’t listen to and understand other people’s points of view, it creates misinterpretation and confrontation. It certainly will cause them to lose business opportunities. They should never give up their own principles, but they need to be able to find common ground. It’s what all good business leaders do to move business forward. Its’ what all good negotiators do to come to solutions.
Prof. Carr May 5, 2008 addendum: See this related article that just appeared in the NY Times, In Inner Mongolia, Pushing Architecture’s Outer Limits. The money quote in the article (as I have also had students with an architecture background argue that “they” don’t need to know or be “international”):
Indeed, Mr. Ai said, pointing to the architects who had traveled thousands of miles looking for work - “These days, it’s the architects, dressed in black, who are the tribe of nomads.”
Read the article, and you will see why.
Entry Filed under: Pre-Departure, Beijing, China, India, New Delhi, Pre-Departure
7 Comments Add your own
1. China Law Blog | May 1st, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Youth.
Just about everything I have ever learned on just about every topic (from baseball, to sushi, to China, to Philosophy, to chemistry, to poitics, to fashion, to plastics manufacturing, to photography, to….) has helped me in some way in my job.
2. Sin-Yaw Wang | May 2nd, 2008 at 1:55 am
Yes, youth. If an adult makes such statement, I will simply shrug, smile, and move on. I don’t really care if someone wishes to waste his/her life away.
You cannot name any significant enough business, industry, or job in the world without involvement with globalization, or more specifically, China. (Make that a homework, Carr.) So, students, how many years you would like to work before reaching that level of “significance.” If the answer is “forever,” then please move on and leave this trip only in your scrapbook. Since in a few years, you won’t matter anyway.
3. Ryan Moore | May 3rd, 2008 at 2:53 pm
If you are not interested in the opportunity to travel to China, meet industry executives, and learn first hand how International business is being done in our world today, then you are not truly interested in business at all. If you are not truly interested in business, then why are you putting yourself through a graduate business program in the first place? The opportunity to view China (and India) at this time in history, meet with industry insiders, and gain the perspective and insight that we will be receiving is an experience that will not only increase your personal understanding of the world we all live in, but will make you more valuable to ANY perspective employer at ANY job, ANYWHERE in the world. Do you get it?
4. David Dougherty | June 11th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
When first enrolling in the program, I was of the few that were uninterested in this trip. This was not because I didn’t see its relevance, but simply because I am stubborn and didn’t want to go. Since then, my views have drastically changed. Through all of the assignments and speakers this year, I now see just how important this piece will be in my life. I am very excited for all of the opportunities and first hand experiences this trip will provide. I now hope to one day be the person that my boss comes to and says jump on the red eyes overseas, and I think this trip will increase the likelihood of that happening.
5. Patrick Johansing | January 21st, 2009 at 7:55 pm
I’m not planning on working abroad, and I don’t know that I’ll ever even need to off-shore any sort of work. But I know that this sort of activity is a big issue in the business world. It makes sense for this sort of course to be taught to MBA students. It also makes sense that you should see the culture you are studying–other people’s descriptions can only go so far. Besides, it’s way more fun this way.
6. Mark Wegemer | February 17th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
It’s amazing but I haven’t even gone on the trip yet and a simi valley company was interested in hiring me when I came back. They wanted to know exactly what day I was back so that I could tell them about the trip. This company deals with a lot of outsourcing their design jobs to China and the President of the company, who I was able to talk to for a bit, conveyed the importance of global relations with other companies. He had visited China a few times and was immediately interested in my opportunity to go and travel there. A job offer because of a trip I haven’t even taken yet? Wow, if this is the start of something big then I’m all aboard!! I’m all ears.
7. Xiaofei Song | February 21st, 2009 at 10:20 pm
This is a very interesting post I have ever seen. If this is a Chinese School and if Dr. Carrs is a Chinese professor, I don’t think this topic will ever be brought on the table. Travel is always fun, no matter where to go, what to see, for me it is very attractive. I am glad Dr. Carrs add India into this trip, so that I am not only going to see my home country. I actually had experience with former MBA students from this program while they were in China. I liked to join them since I want to learn what is the stand of American MBA student to see China, how they live while traveling in China, and what they teach in this program about China. This is very fun for me to read all the posts and discussion online and this is the part of the reason I choose this program.
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