‘Yeah, Carr, This Trip Is Great And Everything, And I’m Looking Forward To It And I Am Glad Cal Poly Does This, But It Won’t Really Impact My Future That Much As I’m Not Going To Work International’
May 1st, 2008
Oh really?
And let me guess … all the products you buy are made in America and there is no value in seeing where the products we buy are made, right? Or the investment funds your stock broker dumps your money into will have no cross-border asset investments tied to China or India, right?
Hmmmm.
In any event, I think most folks get it, but I do overhear this comment a few times each year. In fact, a few weeks ago I had someone in my office making the very argument that is the heading of this post and that if they had to go on the trip and “bear” it in order to graduate on an accelerated basis, they would buck up and make it through.
Double-hmmmm.
I understand where people are coming from and they mean well when they make such statements, and I am pleased they remain outward looking enough to still enroll in the course and undertake this field trip. Perhaps what they are really saying is, “I have no desire to be an expat.”
Fair enough, as the expat life is not for everybody. But I still push back against said statements, and will continue to do so, because I think said statements miss an important point and shows a disconnect with what is happening in the world and about what the term “international” means in the year 2008.
To reiterate what I noted in our early informations sessions — the goal of the trip is to not turn you into an expat, although that may be the natural result of this experience for some.
Rather, some of the main goals are:
1. To better understand how the world’s business, economic, political and social puzzle fit together. You can’t do that from a book or by having coffee at Starbucks in SLO town, LA or the SF Bay area.
2. To better understand how, even if you/your firm elects to focus inward and continue to emphasize only California or US markets, there is a high probability your competition will use and leverage China and/or India against you. Thus, if you remain on the sideline, in time, your competition will kick your butt, there, or here. For every person who has made the above statement, I can point to one of their competitors who are somehow leveraging China or India to their detriment.
3. This is a big one. You can/will return to the US and … surprise! … you will be better at your business here at home because you traveled to places like India and China to study business, to see what is happening there first hand which will in turn help you separate fact from urban legend, and you gain a deeper understanding of why. If you really pay attention and ask lots of questions and go into both countries with total humility (meaning let them do the talking and you just listen), you might even pick up some best business practices from the Chinese or Indians.
4. How do you know the day won’t come where your boss walks in your office and says, “I need you to take the next red-eye to Guangzhou or New Delhi” and he/she picked you because he/she heard you have been to one of these places before on business? Will you jump at the chance and opportunity of a lifetime and in turn become the firm resident expert on China or India, or, will you run for the hills and miss an opportunity that may never come your way again?
5. Finally, one day you might decide you hate your job and working for “the man” and decide to start your own business. You will need capital to do that. You will find that if your idea is decent, potential investors will look at your business plan and ask, “why is there nothing global or relating to global expansion or strategy or how to respond to the global competition here?”
So, I could go on, but in summary, read this post, “Top Ten Reasons Why China Matters To You” from pundit Thomas Barnett. He says it better than I ever could (or have tried).
His list highlights why in the year 2008, an educated person cannot convincingly argue, “I am not international” or “I am not going to work international.” If you make such a statement, be aware that there are a number of people in the world that will look at you askance and even question your Cal Poly degree and/or what you learned here (as an undergrad or grad student). At least I would ….
To close, here is a great quote from Coca-Cola’s current CEO, E. Neville Isdell (Biz Ed, May/June 2008, pages 19-20):
Question by interviewer: If you were to come into a business classroom for a day, what would you want to say to business students?
Answer: I would want to teach students to understand different backgrounds, cultures, religions, and perspectives, even if those perspectives are antithetical to their own. If student’s don’t listen to and understand other people’s points of view, it creates misinterpretation and confrontation. It certainly will cause them to lose business opportunities. They should never give up their own principles, but they need to be able to find common ground. It’s what all good business leaders do to move business forward. Its’ what all good negotiators do to come to solutions.
Prof. Carr May 5, 2008 addendum: See this related article that just appeared in the NY Times, In Inner Mongolia, Pushing Architecture’s Outer Limits. The money quote in the article:
Indeed, Mr. Ai said, pointing to the architects who had traveled thousands of miles looking for work - “These days, it’s the architects, dressed in black, who are the tribe of nomads.”
Entry Filed under: China, Pre-Departure, Beijing, India, Pre-Departure, New Delhi
6 Comments Add your own
1. China Law Blog | May 1st, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Youth.
Just about everything I have ever learned on just about every topic (from baseball, to sushi, to China, to Philosophy, to chemistry, to poitics, to fashion, to plastics manufacturing, to photography, to….) has helped me in some way in my job.
2. Sin-Yaw Wang | May 2nd, 2008 at 1:55 am
Yes, youth. If an adult makes such statement, I will simply shrug, smile, and move on. I don’t really care if someone wishes to waste his/her life away.
You cannot name any significant enough business, industry, or job in the world without involvement with globalization, or more specifically, China. (Make that a homework, Carr.) So, students, how many years you would like to work before reaching that level of “significance.” If the answer is “forever,” then please move on and leave this trip only in your scrapbook. Since in a few years, you won’t matter anyway.
3. Jeff Mohr | May 2nd, 2008 at 3:52 pm
I agree with the above statements and while I am currently not planning on being an expat in India or China, I know my trip will be valuable in many more ways than I can predict. Even if you are not working in India or China, who is to say that you won’t have employees from these countries? They will respect you much more if you know and understand their culture. Seeing a different culture–a different point of view–is often the best way to fully understand your own, and I feel this trip will shed light on many of the current happenings here in the US.
4. Ryan Moore | May 3rd, 2008 at 2:53 pm
If you are not interested in the opportunity to travel to China, meet industry executives, and learn first hand how International business is being done in our world today, then you are not truly interested in business at all. If you are not truly interested in business, then why are you putting yourself through a graduate business program in the first place? The opportunity to view China (and India) at this time in history, meet with industry insiders, and gain the perspective and insight that we will be receiving is an experience that will not only increase your personal understanding of the world we all live in, but will make you more valuable to ANY perspective employer at ANY job, ANYWHERE in the world. Do you get it?
5. Brandi Eng-Rohrbach | May 4th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
I strongly agree with Ryan’s and Chris’s comments that China and India are where everything is happening in the business world and that is what makes visiting them essential to an understanding of business.
I think that China and India are laboratories where there is a great experiment going on. We will get to see in China and India, whether humanity can overcome the challenges we face in the next century or whether growth will stop it its tracks. China and India have grown at a phenomenal rate. Yet this growth is causing an economic disparity, political unrest, and an environmental disaster. I think these are themes echoed worldwide. China and India are the grand experiment to see if we can overcome the new challenges we face.
China and India are also the grand experiment for business. If something can succeed in China and India then it can truly succeed anywhere. China alone is one fifth of the world’s potential consumers. These are consumers that could want a product or service your company provides. If they can’t get it from you, they will probably decide to make it themselves.
Even if you choose to ignore the experiment you will become part of it. The Chinese and Indians will compete with you for resources of all types including but not limited to those that are natural, intellectual, and entrepreneurial.
The only way we can compete both personally and in our jobs is by understanding the experiment. We don’t have to embrace China or India but we cannot afford the comparative disadvantage that is the price we will pay for ignorance.
6. Gary Chou | May 7th, 2008 at 1:32 am
Interesting how the first two comment writers shared the same emotion about youth. While naiveness makes one unable to appreciate all things, I say:
Give me Elixir of Life so I may remain forever young.
Bring me Philosopher Stone and I can be young at heart.
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